Sorry I missed Cedar's POST a month ago ,I'll have a read now ,many thanks
raymond frantz
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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First Recorded "Conscious Class" Talk in the Kingdom Hall
by raymond frantz inthe governing body is not all powerful and all present ,we are not totally powerless .use your talks to promote christian freedom and tear down their propaganda .use material from publications that promote christian freedom and scriptures that they willingly avoid .use your talks to awake your brothers .
the following talk uses non of the usual watchtower propaganda and uses scriptures the governing body chooses to avoid .. whether you are an elder ,a ministerial servant ,or just a publisher use your items and your talks at the meeting to awake your brothers and sisters .this talk was given few days ago at the thursday meeting ,based on proverbs 3:5.sorry for the accent ,english is not my mother language.. talk at the kingdom hall.
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raymond frantz
speargrass55, I think at least 2 of the elders in my congragation have fully AWAKEKENED ,I got smiles of approval from both when I got of the platform ,that says a lot
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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raymond frantz
I never read a letter from the governing body indirectly blaming the elders for lording over at the Kingdom Halls .I know many elders do that ,but who authorized them ?Was it not the GB that few months ago through their elders school told them to be ruthless punishing anything and anyone that poses a threat to the congragation.What a bunch of twisted cowards ! They can't stand up for anything ,they even pretend that they don't exist telling the world that they are a nothing more than a theological arrangement ,a figment of our collective imagination.I never thought a figment of imagination would have this kind of control over so many people
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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raymond frantz
While elders are authorised to counsel and even discipline, they do not seek to dominate or to control the life or faith of others.
Authorised by whom??????????
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First Recorded "Conscious Class" Talk in the Kingdom Hall
by raymond frantz inthe governing body is not all powerful and all present ,we are not totally powerless .use your talks to promote christian freedom and tear down their propaganda .use material from publications that promote christian freedom and scriptures that they willingly avoid .use your talks to awake your brothers .
the following talk uses non of the usual watchtower propaganda and uses scriptures the governing body chooses to avoid .. whether you are an elder ,a ministerial servant ,or just a publisher use your items and your talks at the meeting to awake your brothers and sisters .this talk was given few days ago at the thursday meeting ,based on proverbs 3:5.sorry for the accent ,english is not my mother language.. talk at the kingdom hall.
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raymond frantz
problemaddict ,as the governing body says ,they are only a govering body when they get together ,I'm also Raymond Frantz when I get on the platform when I step down I'm somebody else
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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raymond frantz
- They started blaming others ,that means that we have an impact and they are scared
- They blame local elders for their policies???
- They recognise the right for free will . HA,HA,HA,HA!!!!!
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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raymond frantz
YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
Dear brothers and sisters :Our Heavenly Father,Jehovah, is the personification of love.Hence the Bible states :"God is love".(1 John 4:8) Even though Jehovah is Almighty ,His Word never says ,"God is power" or , "God is might".He bases his rule primarily on love.How this attracts us to him!
Happily, Jehovah does not force us to serve him. He is not a dictator. He wants us to serve him out of love from the heart.When we do this , we show that we want his rulership because we believe that the way he rules is right and loving.This has been evident from the beginning of human history.
Rather than compel Adam and Eve to obey him,Jehovah gave him the opportunity to make their own choice. If they had really loved Jehovah and appreciated what he had done for them ,they would have resisted Satan's efforts to cause them to rebel .
Later on ,Moses said in his parting speech to the nation of Israel:" See, I do put before you today life and good,and death and bad".(Deut.30:15)The people had the freedom to decide how they wanted to live.Similarly,Joshua said to the Israelites:" If it is bad in your eyes to serve Jehovah,choose for yourselves today whom you will serve." In reply , the people answered Joshua:"It is unthinkable,on our part, to leave Jehovah".(Josh.24:15,16)That is how we feel today as well.Because we love Jehovah, it is "unthinkable" for us to leave him.
Within the Christian congragation, we clearly understand the matter of free will. While elders are authorised to counsel and even discipline, they do not seek to dominate or to control the life or faith of others. The apostle Paul wrote :"Not that we are the masters over your faith ,but we are fellow workers for your joy,for it is by your faith you are standing ".-2 Cor. 1:24.
How satisfying it is to do something because we want to do it instead of being forced to do it ! Jehovah invites us to do what is good out of love.The importance of that is seen in Paul's inspired words:"If I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body, that I my boast, but do not have love,I'm not profited at all".1 Cor. 13:3.
What joy it brings to Jehovah- what praise- to see millions of our brothers and sisters serving him because they love him with all their heart!
Jehovah in turn ,dearly loves all his servants, including all you children and teenagers who show that you love Jehovah rather than the world and the self-gratification it offers.Be assured ,too, that we love you dearly.-Luke 12:42.43.
Out of love for Jehovah ,last year you brothers ,sisters,and young people spent 1,748,697,447 hours proclaiming the good news. Prompted by love,7,782,346 shared in the field ministry worldwide.We rejoice in the fact that 268,777 new ones, among them many young ones, sumbolized their dedication to Jehovah through water baptism .This means that 5,168 were baptized on average every weekend.How this touches our heart!
In this time of the end.God's people have to cope with many problems,chalenges,persecution,sickness,and some have to contend with old age.But we are determined never to "shrink back" or to "give up".We love you all very much.-Heb.10:39;2 Cor.4:16.
Your brothers ,
Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses
* Highlighted parts are mine
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First Recorded "Conscious Class" Talk in the Kingdom Hall
by raymond frantz inthe governing body is not all powerful and all present ,we are not totally powerless .use your talks to promote christian freedom and tear down their propaganda .use material from publications that promote christian freedom and scriptures that they willingly avoid .use your talks to awake your brothers .
the following talk uses non of the usual watchtower propaganda and uses scriptures the governing body chooses to avoid .. whether you are an elder ,a ministerial servant ,or just a publisher use your items and your talks at the meeting to awake your brothers and sisters .this talk was given few days ago at the thursday meeting ,based on proverbs 3:5.sorry for the accent ,english is not my mother language.. talk at the kingdom hall.
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raymond frantz
The Governing Body is not all powerful and all present ,we are not totally powerless .Use your talks to promote Christian freedom and tear down their propaganda .Use material from publications that promote Christian Freedom and scriptures that they willingly avoid .Use your talks to AWAKE your brothers . The following talk uses non of the usual Watchtower propaganda and uses scriptures the Governing Body chooses to avoid .
Whether you are an elder ,a ministerial servant ,or just a publisher use your items and your talks at the meeting to AWAKE your brothers and sisters .This talk was given few days ago at the Thursday meeting ,based on Proverbs 3:5.Sorry for the accent ,English is not my mother language.
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"There will be blood" - I DO BELIEVE there will be an up rise very soon
by raymond frantz ini was moved from the post of another user on this topic.like the film "there will be blood" that deals with passive aggression in religion i do now think that there will be an inevitable uprise against the lunatics of the governing body .too many of us wake up in a rate that has never been seen before because of the internet .what do you think ?
what shape will this uprise take ?.
cuba libre.
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Last assembly I couldn't help but notice how many attendants were guarding the passage to the ones getting baptised ,even my wife turned around and said ,"why do they need so much security ?" for people who are just getting baptised .I'm mad as hell and I'm in ,I'm sure others are too .It will blow one way or the other .No other religion is going so far to prove that they have the truth and ask their members to read the Bible daily in full knowledge that they are full of bulls**t. What really gets me is how they don't even recognise any issues pretending that all is business as usual .I'm taking it to the next level I don't care about their judicial comittees ,even if I get disfellowshiped I will sit there in the front seat every week oblivious of their little rules and conditions. The truth is not something that you have to lie about .All my life I was brought up to believe this I won't let 9 Pharisees in New York to take away that from me .
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"There will be blood" - I DO BELIEVE there will be an up rise very soon
by raymond frantz ini was moved from the post of another user on this topic.like the film "there will be blood" that deals with passive aggression in religion i do now think that there will be an inevitable uprise against the lunatics of the governing body .too many of us wake up in a rate that has never been seen before because of the internet .what do you think ?
what shape will this uprise take ?.
cuba libre.
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raymond frantz
I was moved from the post of another user on this topic.Like the film "There will be blood" that deals with passive aggression in religion I do now think that there will be an inevitable uprise against the lunatics of the Governing Body .Too many of us wake up in a rate that has never been seen before because of the Internet .What do you think ? What shape will this uprise take ?